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Young Actress Zoe Weizenbaum Grows with "12 and Holding"  E-mail
Written by Danny Peary   
Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:23
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Zoë Weizenbaum
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Conor Donovan, Weizenbaum, and Jesse Camacho in "12 and Holding"
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You get the same reaction watching actress Zoë Weizenbaum as you once did the young Jodie Foster and Natalie Portman. You say she's the next precocious teen actress who will seamlessly become a leading lady as an adult. Foster stunned us as a young prostitute in "Taxi Driver," and Weizenbaum gives an equally daring performance as a cool but confused and neglected girl who sexually (yet innocently) pursues an adult client (Jeremy Renner as Gus) or her psychiatrist mother (Annabella Sciorra). I wasn't surprised when I spoke to her that she too is a cool kid who is wise beyond her fourteen years.

DP:
Did you always know you had talent?

ZW: I've always liked the attention of being on stage and people told me I was "captivating." I guess I had an idea that I had a good stage presence and what made me different was that I wasn't nervous. Actually as I get older, I get more nervous.

DP:
My guess is that you did a lot of performing in front of your family growing up.

ZW:
Yeah, I liked to perform in front of my family—we have a lot of funny home videos. I sang and danced—I've been taking African dance since I was about two and love the energy of it.

DP: Have you done theater is school?

ZW:
I began at the School of the Performing Arts in New York last year when I was in seventh grade, but haven't been in plays yet. But I did a couple of plays in community theater before I got into movie acting and really liked it.

DP:
How have your friends and classmates at school reacted to your success?

ZW:
At my school everyone is standout-ish. It was cool at first—"hey, the movie girl!"—now that has kind of washed over, which is good.

DP:
Which film were you offered first—"Memoirs of a Geisha" or "12 and Holding?"

ZW:
I wasn't offered—I wish—I had to audition for both. I also auditioned for "Missing in America," which no one ever talks about but is the first film I did. Maybe it's not my best work, but I really enjoyed making it. I costarred with Danny Glover and played a little Vietnamese girl who changes the life of a Vietnam War veteran. For that film and"Memoirs of a Geisha," there were many auditions. The only one I got right away was "12 and Holding."

DP: When you auditioned for "Memoirs," did Rob Marshall really talk to you about the role of Pumpkin?

ZW:
At the final audition. The big thing I had to work with the whole time is that it's a period piece and there was a different culture than I'm used to. At my first audition, I did a lot of hand movements, because Americans talk with their hands; and I've grown up with a lot of people who are very animated so I do that a lot myself. The big instruction I got at the final audition was that Japanese people are very reserved and don't let out more than they need to.

I had first gone in to audition for the main girl, and then I went in for her best friend, Pumpkin. And I got a call back, and the second time I did it with the director and casting director. At first it was very scary. You sit there with many girls and the waiting is nerve-wracking.

DP:
When he was trying to get you to commit to his film, Michael Cuesta (watch our video interview with Michael Cuesta...) said he sent your mom his first film, "L.I.E." It's a chancy film to show to a mother. How did she react?

ZW:
She was very open to it and thought that I could handle a similar film. She told me that after people she knew saw "12 and Holding" or saw the article about it and me in the New York Times, they asked, "Were you comfortable with your daughter doing these things?" It was like them asking if she didn't find a need to protect her daughter more. My mom told them that she was really comfortable and understood the motivations behind the character.

DP: "L.I.E." is about pedophilia and I think it was R-rated, but it makes little sense that adults should be the only ones to watch it? In fact, did you watch it with your mother?

ZW:
Yeah. It's actually NC-17. My mother and I did the whole process together. We watched "L.I.E." with friends and the environment is different with that kind of movie and they felt a bit uncomfortable. But I've grown up in an environment where we see movies dealing with those issues all the time. So it didn't really affect me that much. The first time I saw it I wasn't horrified or disturbed. I think it's a really good film—and really honest.

DP:
Honest is the word Michael uses to describe his follow-up film, "12 and Holding." He says it's not a dark film, but a real, honest film. Could you tell that from the script?

ZW:
The first time I read the script I kind of had a resistance to it. We were on vacation, and I said to my mom, "Oh, my God, listen to this scene!" And then I'd read it to her. And she would say, "Wow!" I said, "I could never do that."

Once I did the audition tape and read the script over again, I knew I had to look beyond the acts themselves and focus on the characters and their relationships and situations. I think it's a really good film to see to learn about relationships, between parents and kids and between kids and kids.

DP:
Why do you think you were the right choice to play the role, that you understood her so well?

ZW:
I would never do the things she does but as a character I like that she's quirky and really funny, and at first she's not really influenced by the image of a "pretty teenager." You can tell a lot about her by the good friends she has. I related to her in an offbeat kind of way. She's kind of dorky and I could play that, but she's also remarkable at the same time. Dorky in a good way. She's off a bit, and weird in the best sense of the word. It was a challenging role.

DP:
The moment where I think you and Malee are the same is when you sing the Blue Oyster Cult song at the school. That's when I saw you.

ZW: Yeah! I see myself there. I love performing and singing, and I loved preparing for that song. I really feel I'm in my element when I'm onstage, so you might have seen that.

DP: Was your being an Asian-American ever brought up considering it is never mentioned in the script?

ZW: Malee is a Chinese name and the part was written as an Asian American for some reason. I even took pictures with a Chinese man who was supposed to be her father. But I was told I would have been asked to do the part even if it hadn't been written that way. I'm proud of being Asian, but if I were blond and blue-eyed I wouldn't feel any different, and it really restricts what roles I go out for. DP: Seeing the movie, the surprise is that Malee keeps going farther and farther with her obsession for her mother's adult patient, moving into dangerous areas. What was your reaction when reading the script and realizing that it builds and builds up to the scene where she disrobes and walks toward him in his apartment?

ZW: I had a lot of apprehension about that scene. I'd talk to my mother and say, "Oh God, the scene is coming up on Tuesday!" We would refer to it as "The Scene."

DP: How long into the shooting schedule did you do it?

ZW: It was later, maybe after two or three weeks. It would have been harder if we shot it at first. The reason it was so comfortable is that I had a really good relationship with Jeremy Renner and with Michael and was familiar with everyone on the set. And we'd done hard scenes before so, I understood Malee better. That made a difference.


 

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Weizenbaum and Annabella Sciorra in "12 and Holding"
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Weizenbaum gives her fans a smile
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The kids in "12 and Holding"
DP: One of the things you have to figure out about Malee is why she is drawn to an adult male. She's going through puberty so do you think it's possible she's reacting to the loss of Rudy, who might have been her first boyfriend if he hadn't been killed?

ZW:
I hadn't thought of that. My idea was that she is really lonely and going through all these changes. It's hard enough being a teenager and experiencing a roller coaster of emotions and whatever, and not having support or someone to talk to, and not having a father figure. I think she kind of looks at Gus as a father figure, even though she goes to him romantically. She's really confused and doesn't know how girls are supposed to act with guys really. With her young male friends, she doesn't think about that stuff at all.

DP:
Another possibility is that she approaches Gus to compete with her mother, who shares intimacies with him because he's her client.

ZW:
I hadn't thought of that either. I can see that. She has a lot of spite toward her mother. She doesn't know how to relate to her and maybe she's jealous of the relationship her mother and Gus have.

DP:
Do you believe if a kid has a bad parent that she's ever guilty for going astray? Is Malee at fault in any way?

ZW:
I don't think so really. This movie is a lot about kids relationships with their parents and how disconnected they can be. It really shows how that can take a huge toll on the kids and how they will go to great lengths to try to get their parents attention—"Look at how lonely I am" or "Look at all this suppressed anger I have" or "I am having a lot of body issues."

I think the parents are at fault. Even with Jacob's parents, there is a disconnection because they're grieving over his brother Rudy. And the mother plants the seed for Jacob to get revenge by being happy justice was served when one of the boys responsible kills himself in the reform school and when she tells him she wants the other killer dead.

DP:
What do you think the relationship was between Malee and her mother and her father before the movie begins?

ZW:
That's another question I haven't been asked (and I have all these standard answers for all these other ones). I bet their relationship got worse as Malee went into this "12 and Holding" period. She is going through changes and has emotions and is unruly—but that could be controlled normally if she had a support system or an adult saying "that's not okay," or just someone guiding her through the teenage drama period. I can imagine their relationship before that being better.

Malee's relationship with her father may be better than the one her mother has with him. Or she's ignorant to what her parents fight about and what's wrong with the dad. She might think, "Well, I like him, why did you have to screw things up?" They got divorced and she blames her mother for his leaving, without understanding the real reasons, and that sparks the resentment.

DP: One of the sad parts about their relationship is that Malee's mom also could be happier if she was connected to her daughter, who is a great kid. She could get a lot of fulfillment from her. Their relationship does improve when the mother finally pays more attention to her daughter, particularly in regard to her need to see her father.

ZW: She's too caught up in her work to pay attention at first, but that changes toward the end. Her mother finally admits to her, "He hurt me." So there's a revelation: Malee sees that it wasn't only her mother's fault that her father left, and her mother realizes Malee still needs a relationship with her dad.

DP: Did you know Annabella Sciorra before working with her?

ZW: I had seen "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle" and "True Love," which is a really good movie. She's a great actress and I loved working with her. She's the only one who really improvised. She'd throw in a line and I'd think, "Whoa!, That's so good!," and it was really fun to just go with it. I really liked that.

DP: What was it like working with Michael Cuesta?

ZW: Michael was an amazing director to work with. He is very serious and gives his actors a lot of respect, no matter their age. He was very focused on the path he was on, and where he was going with each scene in terms of the plot as a whole. He was good at explaining what happens right before the scene and what is about to happen.

DP: When he corrected you, were you okay?

ZW: I was. Sometimes it's hard to be corrected, but he did it with a lot of respect. When I got it right, he'd praise me. I had another director who after every scene would say, "Okaaay…" And you'd never know what you did right or wrong.

DP: He's great at working with kid actors. Did you have a different approach to acting than the boys?

ZW: I don't know if we had a different approach, but we worked really well together. We were really close on the set and I think that showed on the screen, because it felt like we were just having another conversation in front of the camera. All our personalities came together and we were able to show how kids actually talk. That was cool. This was definitely my favorite film to make because I got to work with other kids.

DP: Did you learn anything from being in this film?

ZW: I learned a lot, as I do from every experience. One important thing I've learned is that every director is really different. So you can't be set in your ways about anything. You can rehearse a scene one way over and over again, and it still can change.

DP: You're only 14, but do you think of yourself as an instinctive actress or do you want to take acting classes to improve your craft?

ZW: I'm not sure. The acting classes I've taken have just been improv games and stuff, and haven't really caused me to change anything. If I find a good acting class now or in high school or college, I'd take that.

DP: Since you're going to the School of the Performing Arts, can we assume you're committed to a show business career?

ZW: I have no idea. I'm pursuing it now. It's looking like I'm going to do that, but I like to be open to other things.

DP: Are you auditioning for other movies now or are you waiting for reaction from "12 and Holding?"

ZW: Yeah, I'm auditioning up the wazoo. There are some really cool parts I'm hoping to get. It's amazing how many Chinese actresses are becoming more known. I hope to be up there with Sandra Oh and Lucy Liu, who I like so much. I like being among the first.